Real Life Theology Podcast

Following Jesus in an LGBTQ+ World (feat. Guy Hammond)

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Today’s episode will help us understand the challenges and approaches to discussing LGBTQ issues within the context of faith and disciple-making.
Navigating Faith and LGBTQ: An Honest Conversation with Guy Hammond
Join us for an in-depth and transparent session led by pastor and executive director of Strength in Weakness Ministries, Guy Hammond. In this enlightening and heartfelt presentation, Guy shares his personal journey and insights on balancing LGBTQ issues with Christian faith. Learn about his experiences from living a gay life to becoming a devoted Christian, and how his organization helps others navigate similar paths. With open discussions, challenging questions, and practical advice for creating a welcoming church environment, this session dives deep into the complexities of faith, sexuality, and discipleship.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Session Overview
00:42 Speaker's Background and Ministry
03:20 Personal Journey and Struggles
06:10 Finding Faith and Transformation
08:35 Living a Holy Life Despite Attractions
11:33 Marriage and Family Life
16:53 Current Ministry and Resources
17:44 Interactive Q&A Session
41:55 Challenges of Teaching Teens
42:24 Addressing LGBTQ Issues with Teens
45:17 The Importance of Biblical Conviction
46:11 Personal Journey from Homosexuality to Christianity
51:06 Engaging with Transgender Individuals in Church
01:04:36 Balancing Protection and Welcoming in Church
01:17:21 Navigating Attraction vs. Lust
01:21:51 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
 
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BONUS -- Losing My Faith in Progressive Christianity | Interview with Dave Stovall

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Today’s episode will help us explore the journey of deconstructing and reconstructing faith with insights from Dave Stovall, author of 'Losing My Faith in Progressive Christianity.'
Losing My Faith in Progressive Christianity | Interview with Dave Stovall
In this episode, Daniel McCoy sits down with Dave Stovall—worship minister, recording artist, and author of 'Losing My Faith in Progressive Christianity.' Dave shares an in-depth look at his book, which chronicles his journey through deconstructing and reconstructing his faith. They discuss the concept of deconstruction, the pitfalls of progressive Christianity, and how Dave found his way back to historic Christianity through discipleship and faith. This conversation is a blend of personal anecdotes, insightful discussions on faith, and practical advice for those navigating their own spiritual doubts.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction to Dave Stovall and His Book
00:37 Understanding Deconstruction
06:52 Personal Journey of Doubt and Reconstruction
10:16 Writing for the Doubters and Progressives
14:40 A Quick Version of Dave's Story
24:29 Challenges and Insights from the Christian Music Industry
29:10 The Power of Discipleship
33:03 A Story of Restoration and Hope
36:17 Final Words of Encouragement
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Developing a Lifestyle of Prayer and Fasting (feat. Tony Twist)

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Today’s episode will help us encounter the transformative power of prayer and fasting, embrace our true identity, and commit to a life of spiritual discipline.
The Power of Prayer and Fasting: Transforming Lives and Embracing Identity
In this inspiring talk, the speaker shares experiences from around the world, emphasizing the transformative power of prayer and fasting. Stories from Kenya, Sierra Leone, and personal anecdotes illustrate how deep faith and steadfast practices lead to profound spiritual movements and personal growth. The speaker underscores the importance of understanding our true identity and purpose, using impactful illustrations and personal stories to drive home the message. Together, participants are guided through powerful prayer sessions to deepen their connection with God and commit to a life of spiritual discipline for greater fruitfulness.
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Rhythms: How to Live as a Disciple of Jesus (feat. Andrew Jit)

Rhythms: How to Live as a Disciple of Jesus
Today’s episode will help us cultivate intentional rhythms that deepen our relationship with Jesus, strengthen our ministry, and foster a life of rest, transformation, and community.
Finding Rest: Discovering the Rhythms of Grace
In this episode, Andrew Jit shares insights on living a renewed life in Jesus, highlighting the importance of rest and rhythms. He discusses his background, ministry experiences in New Zealand and the U.S., and his passion for global discipleship through the organization Renew. The speaker explores the premise of their book 'Rhythms,' emphasizing Jesus' invitation to rest and follow Him. They draw from several biblical passages, like Matthew 11:28-30 and John 15, discussing how integrating rhythms of grace can help Christians live freely and lightly. Practical applications and real-life examples of discipleship are also shared, encouraging individuals to understand their identity in Christ and persist through life's challenges.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
07:23 Living as a Disciple
08:37 Practical Applications and Theology
15:01 The Importance of Sabbath
16:37 Engaging with the Book Rhythms
26:32 Foundations of Self-Discovery
27:00 Managing Your Life Wisely
28:32 Choosing the Right Path
36:44 Connecting with Different Worldviews
38:38 The Importance of Forgiveness
44:27 Keeping the Faith Strong
45:51 Making a Difference for God's Glory
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Andrew Jit begins by introducing his book, "Rhythms," and his ministry, drawing from Matthew 11:28-30 to emphasize Jesus' invitation to find “unforced rhythms of grace” amid life's busyness.
He encourages simplifying and internalizing theological concepts, making them accessible for everyday life, especially for parents as they model a Christ-centered life. For Andrew, rhythms are about aligning with Jesus’ teachings and letting this alignment naturally guide one’s actions, especially in family and community settings. He points to the middle of Jesus’ call in Matthew 4:19, “I will make you fishers of men,” highlighting transformation as a critical part of discipleship that influences not only individuals but also their communities.
Andrew also addresses real-life ministry challenges—like suffering, habits, and rest—sharing personal insights on the importance of Sabbath, understanding one’s calling, and integrating rhythms to navigate life’s ups and downs while keeping a focus on Jesus.
In exploring the broader impact of these rhythms, he challenges the audience to think globally about their ministry, aligning with Renew’s mission of international outreach. The episode concludes with an overview of "Rhythms," covering its self-assessments, Biblical teachings, practical strategies, and success stories from people who’ve embraced these rhythms.
Ultimately, Andrew’s message is an uplifting call to deepen one’s relationship with Jesus through intentional rhythms that emphasize rest, transformation, community, and lifelong discipleship.
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How to Help People Overcome Addictions (feat. Dave Hamlin)

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Today’s episode will help us understand the journey from addiction to recovery, offering practical insights and compassionate guidance for supporting others in recovery ministry.
Finding Redemption: A Pastor's Journey to 45 Years of Sobriety and Helping Addicts
In this moving and heartfelt session, Pastor Dave shares his incredible journey from addiction to sobriety, having been clean for nearly 45 years. He talks about growing up in a strict Christian household, struggling with alcohol as a high school athlete, and the pivotal moments that guided him towards recovery and a ministerial calling. Pastor Dave outlines his efforts in leading a recovery ministry, drawing from programs like AA, NA, and Celebrate Recovery, and emphasizing the importance of helping addicts understand their addiction's underlying causes. He also discusses the critical role of community, the power of scripture, and the challenges faced in this impactful yet demanding ministry.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Personal Background
01:17 Struggles with Addiction
02:44 Turning Points and Influences
04:28 Journey to Ministry
06:49 Recovery Ministry Insights
13:30 Practical Steps for Recovery
18:59 Encouragement and Final Thoughts
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In this powerful episode, Dave Hamlin shares his journey from addiction to recovery and how it has shaped his life and ministry. With honesty and humility, Dave recounts pivotal moments that led him to sobriety and the lessons he now uses to help others on the same path.
Early Life and Addiction: Growing up in a devout Christian family in Lexington, Kentucky, Dave still found himself drawn to heavy drinking in high school, trying to fit in with the "cool athletes." His drinking led to risky nights and a growing problem by his senior year.
Key Turning Points: Dave’s journey took a turn when two people reached out: his youth minister, Larry Green, subtly confronted him, and a girl from his church persistently told him she was praying for him. These interactions planted seeds of change.
Path to Recovery and Ministry: Entering Milligan College on a baseball scholarship, Dave initially resisted ministry but had a spiritual encounter that led him to commit to youth ministry. Ironically, he’s now spent 28 years preaching and working in recovery ministry, celebrating 45 years of sobriety.
Building a Community Recovery Program: Dave's program, “Community Recovery,” adapts the 12-step model to his church, incorporating scripture and making steps more memorable to reinforce recovery.
Impactful Stories and Realities: Dave’s experiences are filled with stories of hope, like his emotional moment on a baseball field, and recovery stories from his ministry. He also shares the tough realities, from the physical demands of supporting someone in withdrawal to the safety precautions needed in some environments.
Final Thoughts: Dave calls for compassion, seeing addiction as a condition, not a flaw, and focusing on Christ’s transformative power. His testimony offers hope for those struggling and insight for anyone in recovery ministry.
This episode captures Dave Hamlin's inspiring journey and practical wisdom for anyone navigating recovery or serving those who are.
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When Leaders Disagree (feat. Jeff Faull)

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Today’s episode will teach us how to build team unity among church leaders. We will discuss best practices for the beautiful but messy work of building team unity and relational health and alignment around our mission of discipleship.
Navigating Leadership Unity in the Church
Join us in this engaging workshop led by a board member from E2 Ministries on the topic of leadership unity within the church. Originally slated to be conducted by Dr. Gary Johnson, this session delves into the complexities and messiness of maintaining unity among church leaders. Discover valuable insights on humility, practicing biblical conflict resolution, understanding the emotional intelligence among leaders, and cultivating a culture of openness and timely confrontation. The speaker also emphasizes the importance of establishing non-negotiables, knowing the personality 'bents' of fellow leaders, and the precious, yet often messy, blessing of leadership unity. Whether you are a church leader or interested in effective church management, this workshop provides practical bullet points and principles to foster a unified leadership that aligns with Christ’s discipleship mission.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Workshop Overview
04:38 The Messiness of Unity
06:49 Biblical Examples of Messy but Precious Leadership
07:56 The Blessing of Leadership Unity
11:10 Handling Disagreements with Humility
12:56 Practicing Biblical Conflict Resolution
16:08 Establishing Conflict Plumb Lines
24:12 Increasing Emotional Intelligence
33:25 The Importance of Presentation
34:29 Authentic Apologies and Humility
38:28 Keeping Disagreements Within Meetings
39:28 Guarding Against Spouse Proxy
45:13 Fighting Fair and Seeking Mediation
47:54 Celebrating Unity and Final Thoughts
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In this episode, Jeff Faull leads a workshop for church leaders on navigating disagreements within leadership teams.
Jeff concludes with practical tips on praying over decisions, identifying high-conflict issues early, and seeking mediation when necessary. He reaffirms the value of unity in leadership, returning to the theme of "good, messy, blessed" unity from Psalm 133. The session ends with a Q&A, where Jeff addresses questions on balancing humility with fortitude and making tough calls on when to work through conflicts or part ways.
In short, Jeff Faull’s workshop provides a practical, faith-centered roadmap for handling disagreements, fostering unity, and staying focused on the mission.
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BONUS -- The Solomon Foundation: What the Solomon Foundation is all About

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In this episode, Doug Fultz from the Solomon Foundation talks about how the Solomon Foundation can help Christian churches and organizations receive financial help. The Solomon Foundation specializes in church loans and supporting ministry goals through finances.
 
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Dangers of Progressivism (feat. Jim Dalrymple)

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Today’s episode will help us recognize and address the subtle dangers of progressive Christianity while strengthening our faith through clear theology and intentional discipleship.
Navigating Progressive Christianity: Insights and Warnings for Modern Believers
In this comprehensive episode, we explore the intersection of progressive Christianity and contemporary cultural philosophies, drawing lessons from Paul's letters to Timothy. Participants will gain insights into diagnosing false teachings, the influence of modern social theories, and the importance of maintaining a solid theological foundation. Through metaphors like health and construction, this discussion contrasts authentic biblical teachings with the 'comfort gospel' and celebrity culture in the church. The episode underscores the transformative power of true faithfulness versus flashiness and warns against the dangers of syncretism observed in different cultural contexts. Episodes include practical exercises, historical insights, and references to prominent figures like Alyssa Childers. Join us to navigate the challenges posed by progressive Christianity and ensure a rooted and substantive faith.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Workshop Overview
00:18 Metaphors for Understanding Progressive Christianity
01:51 Prayer and Biblical Lens for Diagnosing False Teaching
02:39 Classroom Insights on False Teachers
05:42 Speculations vs. Stewardship
07:09 False Teachings and Modern Contexts
11:07 Paul's Teachings on False Doctrine
14:51 Syncretism and Progressive Theology
26:19 Diagnosing Modern Progressive Theology
29:10 Critiquing Higher Criticism and Theological Bias
30:23 The Influence of Postmodernism and Neo-Marxism
31:43 Navigating Theological Fluidity and Individualism
34:21 Culture as Canon and the Role of Cancel Culture
36:47 The Heart as Guide and the Problem with Self-Reliance
38:56 Tolerance, Activism, and Deconstruction
42:33 Caution in Confronting Sin and Overreaction
52:08 The Importance of Discipleship and Discipline
56:25 Final Thoughts and Prayer
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This episode features a workshop by Jim Dalrymple on the challenges of progressivism in Christianity. Dalrymple begins by acknowledging the post-lunch time slot and sets a welcoming tone. He explores the difficulties of defining and diagnosing progressivism, using two metaphors from Paul’s letters to Timothy: health and homebuilding.
Dalrymple stresses the need for clear theological definitions, comparing progressive Christianity to medical diagnostics and home reconstruction. He opens with prayer, focusing on spiritual resilience in a changing society.
Drawing from his experience teaching 1 Timothy and 2 Timothy at Ozark Christian College, Dalrymple uses a visual metaphor—like a detective's crime board—to highlight the traits of false teachers and link them to today’s progressive Christianity. He examines 1 Timothy 1:3-7, contrasting speculation with stewardship, and warns against modern movements like the health and wealth gospel and the comfort gospel, which mirror historical challenges faced by the church.
Dalrymple then shifts to the metaphor of homebuilding, cautioning against deconstructing faith without rebuilding on biblical foundations. He critiques the tendency to replace core doctrines with speculative or culturally convenient ideas.
He addresses the delicate balance between gentleness and confrontation when responding to false teachings, and observes how progressive Christianity often seeks recognition, power, and controversy, drawing examples from past and present trends.
Next, Dalrymple discusses the broader cultural influences—humanism, skepticism, Darwinism, naturalism, and postmodernism—that have shaped progressive theology, arguing that these secular philosophies have diluted Christian teachings.
He identifies key traits of progressive Christianity: elevating culture as the ultimate authority, following subjective feelings, prioritizing tolerance above all else, and viewing activism as worship. He critiques the lack of clear doctrinal boundaries in the movement.
Dalrymple examines the motivations behind progressive beliefs, including cultural pressures, personal hurts, and the desire for platforms or pleasure, and warns against the deliberate or unintentional distortion of traditional theology.
He closes with practical advice, urging church leaders to focus on intentional discipleship and proper church discipline to safeguard doctrinal purity and restore those led astray by false teachings.
In summary, this workshop calls for vigilance in addressing the subtle dangers of progressive Christianity, combining scriptural analysis with practical steps for protecting and nurturing healthy church communities.
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BONUS -- Orpheus Heyward: The Word of God

BONUS Episode!! 
 
In this episode of the RLT Podcast, Orpheus Heyward discusses the word of God. He teaches on how Jesus is God in the flesh and gives great textual evidence for his argument. He describes scripture as inspired, inerrant, and infallible. Orpheus walks through cultural context surrounding the word of God and Biblical issues.
 
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How do we Think Well About the World Around Us?

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Today’s episode will help us thoughtfully engage with culture by combining biblical wisdom, creativity, and a balanced approach to grace and truth.
Engaging Culture Thoughtfully: Balancing Faith and Modern Challenges
Join us in this insightful episode as we delve into the complex ways Christians can thoughtfully engage with culture. Spearheaded by Chad Ragsdale and Daniel McCoy, the discussion brings forth historical and biblical perspectives on navigating cultural tensions. Explore themes of accommodation, hostility, isolation, and counter-culture, and get a deeper understanding of Christian postures like quietism, activism, and evangelism. Based on 1 Peter 2:11-12, learn about living as exemplary citizens, balancing grace and truth, compassion and courage, and practicing creative, effective discipleship. Through personal anecdotes and practical applications, this episode provides valuable insights for balancing ethical issues, avoiding false dichotomies, and fostering unity in a fragmented world. Engage with us to think well, act compassionately, and lead courageously in today’s society.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:46 Framing the Discussion: Loving God with Our Minds
02:52 Cultural Matrix: Engaging with the World
06:44 Postures vs. Gestures: Contextual Approaches
10:17 Conflict and Cultural Engagement
20:23 Daniel McCoy's Perspective
21:48 Devil vs. God: Destruction and Unity
28:39 The Essence of Creativity
29:39 Church Unity and the Shema
30:32 The Beauty of Church Diversity
31:21 The Central Preposition of Christmas
32:36 Renew.org: Bridging Theology and Discipleship
33:17 Creativity in Addressing Cultural Issues
43:25 Balancing Grace and Truth
48:47 Evangelicalism and Activism
54:36 Avoiding False Dichotomies
55:28 Interactive Q&A Session
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In this episode, Chad Ragsdale, academic dean and professor at Ozark Christian College, and Daniel McCoy, editorial director for Renew.org, discuss their co-authored book, which tackles how disciples can love God with their minds and engage culture thoughtfully, grounded in biblical wisdom.
Chad kicks off the session by introducing himself and thanking the audience. He sets the stage for the conversation: how followers of Jesus can think critically and engage effectively with the world around them. He introduces a framework called the "cultural matrix," explaining how Christians approach culture along two axes: being "in the world" but "not of the world."
Ragsdale describes different postures: accommodation (adjusting to culture) and hostility (opposing culture), noting both are still rooted within the world. He contrasts these with anti-culture (like the Amish, who isolate) and counter-culture (those who create alternative communities). These stances aren’t wrong on their own but become problematic when they turn into rigid, inflexible approaches.
Most people, Ragsdale says, fall somewhere between these extremes, combining approaches like quietism (accommodation + isolation), activism (counter-culture + hostility), and evangelism (counter-culture + accommodation). The key is flexibility—adapting to context while maintaining biblical balance, avoiding a one-size-fits-all mentality.
Daniel McCoy then steps in, emphasizing the importance of creating a better culture as part of the Christian mission. He contrasts the destructive nature of the devil with God's creativity, which restores and unites. Creativity, McCoy explains, reflects God’s work, combining virtues like courage and compassion to transcend the binary choices the world offers. He uses examples like parenting and church worship to show how Christians can integrate traditional and contemporary elements to build something more beautiful.
During the Q&A, Ragsdale and McCoy address how these cultural postures relate to apologetics and the balance of grace and truth. Ragsdale emphasizes that apologetics should focus on addressing deeper hurts rather than simply winning arguments. He also stresses the need for fully integrating both grace and truth, sharing personal stories to illustrate how to live out these principles.
They also touch on trends in evangelicalism, noting how younger Christians often lean towards activism. Ragsdale cautions against tribalism, urging ongoing self-examination and thoughtful engagement instead of falling into divisive either-or thinking.
In closing, Ragsdale encourages the audience to keep asking questions, challenging their own views and others', and pursuing a more nuanced understanding of biblical truth.
In summary, this episode offers practical wisdom for Christians on engaging culture thoughtfully and biblically, urging a balance of grace and truth, creativity, and a spirit of inquiry.
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Future Challenges for Authentic Disciples (feat. Mike Williams)

Today’s episode will help us understand how to better support young Christians by fostering authentic community, prioritizing mental health, and embracing deep spiritual engagement in the face of modern cultural shifts.
Mike Williams, President of Harding University, talks about why it's crucial to support today's young generation in their faith journey. Joined by Dr. Monty Cox and Dr. Jason Darden, they delve into the spiritual and psychological challenges young Christians face. They highlight the importance of genuine community, mental health awareness, and deep spiritual involvement. The discussion also covers effective disciple-making strategies like spiritual training and forming close-knit, challenging small groups. Overall, they stress the need for the church to adapt to today's culture while remaining a powerful force for Christian transformation.
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Leading Your Church in Prayer and Fasting (feat. Dave & Sydney Clayton)

Transforming a Church Through Prayer and Fasting: A Journey of Faith and Revival
Today’s episode will help us understand how integrating prayer and fasting into church ministry can drive deep spiritual transformation and enhance discipleship, based on the experiences and practical advice of Dave and Sydney Clayton.
In this video, a pastor shares the transformative 10-year journey of his Nashville church as they embrace the disciplines of prayer and fasting. From humble beginnings of non-praying leaders to a citywide movement involving hundreds of churches, this breakout session dives deep into practical steps, biblical foundations, and inspirational stories. The session also underscores the importance of preparation, community encouragement, and commitment to sustained prayer and fasting, aiming for spiritual breakthroughs and cultural transformation.
 
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Key Takeaways
00:00 Introduction and Purpose of the Breakout Class
01:06 The Importance of Prayer and Fasting
01:25 Personal Journey and Conviction
06:27 Transformative Experiences in Africa
09:46 Implementing Prayer and Fasting in the Church
15:26 City-Wide Prayer and Fasting Initiatives
20:26 The Why Behind Prayer and Fasting
28:30 Practical Aspects of Fasting
30:52 Different Types of Fasting
31:23 The Grace in Fasting
32:03 The Daniel Fast
32:53 Soul Fasting: Beyond Food
33:47 The Purpose of Fasting
34:22 Preparing for a Fast
35:53 Involving the Family in Fasting
40:19 Encouragement During the Fast
43:23 Celebrating the End of a Fast
44:32 Discernment and Testimonies
45:24 Starting Small and Sticking With It
46:34 The Power of Prayer
51:24 Resources and Final Thoughts
 
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In this episode, Dave and Sydney Clayton discuss the crucial role of prayer and fasting in church ministry, focusing on its impact on spiritual transformation and discipleship. This session, part of a breakout class, aims to provide practical insights for church communities.
Dave kicks off by expressing his enthusiasm for the session, highlighting the value of these more intimate, hands-on discussions. He explains that prayer and fasting are essential to discipleship, comparing them to the "tip of the spear" in disciple-making, essential for deep spiritual growth and transformation.
He shares his journey, starting with his early ministry in downtown Nashville, where he recognized the need to break through cultural Christianity. A vision from God, depicting prayer and fasting as an arrow piercing the hard soil of the city, became the foundation for his church’s focus on these practices over the past decade.
Sydney then leads the group in prayer, asking the Spirit to guide their discussion. She recalls a pivotal moment for their church when a quote from a prayer book emphasized the urgent need for prayer, sparking a transformation from a sermon-focused congregation to an active praying community.
Dave and Sydney talk about the challenges they faced in building a prayer-focused culture, noting that persistence and small, incremental steps made a difference over time. They began with brief prayer sessions during Sunday services and gradually introduced longer periods of prayer and fasting throughout the year. Now, their church regularly holds weekly prayer meetings, prayer fasts, all-night prayer sessions, and annual seasons of intensified prayer and fasting.
A key turning point in their journey was a trip to Africa, where they witnessed the power of corporate prayer and fasting, inspiring them to deeply embed these practices in their church community.
 
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